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Vancouver to Launch Bixi Program in 2011?

June 18, 2010
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Vancouver’s bicycle revolution continues as it was announced yesterday that the City of Vancouver will finally get it’s very own Bixi (bicycle + taxi = bixi) system. The Bixi system, modeled after the awesome program in Montreal, is a city-wide public bike-sharing program, which allows a person to pick up a bike at any one of the stations around the city, ride around and drop them off at another station when they are done. To be part of the program requires a $78 fee, plus fees for trips lasting more than a half hour. The program will be available all over the city with around 200 stations planned in the following nieghbourhoods: Mt. Pleasant, Kits, Fairview, UBC, Commercial Drive and downtown.

The announcement really should not come as a surprise to Vancouverites. The mayor is definitely making good on his promise to make Vancouver more bicycle friendly (see Dunsmuir viaduct and bike lane). Whether or not we get more people on bicycles remains to be seen and ultimately increased ridership may take a few years.

The estimated cost to set up a Bixi system is $15 million and once fully under way should be self financing. Furthermore, the city is looking at the option of corporate sponsors, and maybe even the much dreaded P3 (private-public partnerships) that have become popular in infrastructure projects, thanks to the provincial Liberals.
Let’s see how this revolution pans out. I think the Bixi program was long overdue and for a city such as Vancouver, which prides itself in being “green” I am surprised we didn’t have this in place sooner.
Update: The city will be making an announcement soon on their new bike share program.
  • Hipster Designer

    SWEET! Once again, VCB is FIRST on the scene!

  • Alex

    I would very much like this. Often I walk or take the bus to downtown and while I'm down there I find myself wishing I had a bike to go pickup lunch or visit a particular store.

    I saw the Velib in Paris while I was there and lots of people on it, although I know they had a few issues with thefts. I think Bixi in Montreal hasn't had as many problems, although nothing kept outside is ever completely safe.

    We already have car sharing (Co-op Auto net, ZipCars), why not bike sharing?

  • Anonymous

    I have to say that this is dumb. It's a nice idea, but if someone has 78 bucks to rent a bike, they might as well buy a bike.

    And talking about making this city more bicycle friendly? It's chaos out there. No cyclist obeys the rules of the road AT ALL in vancouver and our streets aren't wide enough for this crap. Make cyclists get a bike license before they get on the road, it's ridiculous. And get some bike cops in the spots where they almost cause accidents everyday. Ahem Georgia Viaduct Ahem China Town, Ahem.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn't he do something useful, like make Canucks day during the worst time of the year. Oh wait, he did that already.

    Good job Gregor.

  • Anonymous

    This is great news for Vancouver. I live in Montreal and travel between my home in Vancouver and Montreal and I just love the Bixi service here. So useful downtown and the surrounding areas. I love that if your out late at night and the subway stopped service, you can take a Bixi instead. And there is an error in the article. It doesnt cost 78 $ to ride a bike. Its 78$ a month and you can ride the bixi bikes all you want during the monthly pass. Its like a keychain that you scan onto the dock instead of a paper pass. It costs about 5 $ to rent the bike with additional charges added the longer you use it. You pay with a credit card. They freeze 250 $ incase you steal it.

  • Alexwarrior

    Just to the above 12:37 comment, I think you mean $78 per year, not month? The Bixi Montreal website shows $78/year. Much rather spend that and take this bike around downtown for my quick lunchtime shopping trips instead of my $2000 commuting bike, which stays securely locked at the office!

  • Anonymous

    oh sorry, i could have sworn it was 78 a month. Thats even better than! its going to be geat for Vancouver. Imagine bike stations around the sea wall on stanley park. We can just bike to Kits beach now too.

  • Paul Mantel

    great idea, would love to see it work. When I used to live in Amsterdam they tried the same principle in the '70. Unfortunately the concept did not work, no one was looking after the bikes. hope this will be different in Vancouver

  • James

    This sounds great, and I'm super excited to see this come to Vancouver, that's why it concerns me that helmet laws might make this not as useful as it seems. Is there a helmet that comes with the bike? or can we get rid of the helmet laws?

  • Grant Blogs Harder

    I just had a fantastic Bixi experience in Montreal- I flew into town for a meeting- took the bus DT- had lunch- grabbed a bike- road to meeting- returned bike while in meeting- got a new bike when the meeting was finished- road to bus stop to head back out to the airport. Perfect.

    I'm loving the Dunsmuir bike lane too!

  • Anonymous

    Ya! I have been to Montreal several times and have enjoyed the bixi bike system quite a lot. It IS 78/year, and something does need to be done about the helmet laws in order for this to work properly. Very convenient (noone should be driving a car downtown anyway…what a pain in the ass!) and very green…not to mention the health benefits! Should have been here ages ago!

  • Anonymous

    I just moved to Vancouver from Montreal and I have to say that Bixi can't get here fast enough. I miss it and it was amazing how positive people responded to the system and how well it worked. I was initially skeptical, and there are definite kinks that need to be worked out, but it just gets better and better as the organizers learn travel patterns and make station adjustments.
    As to the helmet laws, I would recommend that they be relaxed for bicycles like biki that are upright and slower than road racers. They really should not be treated the same. Biki speeds do not even compare to the top-of-the-line street bikes. It's like comparing a cheetah to an elephant – both are african mammals, but different species altogether.

  • Anonymous

    I was just in London where the Bixi program was about to launch (July 30 launch, I think). People were definitely excited about the program and it was sponsored by Barclays bank. The bikes are covered in Barclays logos – I can't help but think a local company should sponsor this program. It's bound to be high profile. Although I commute by bike, I'm looking forward to trying Bixi out. I agree that it will be great for Vancouver!

  • Ian MacDonald

    Love the Bixi in Montrea. It just WORKS so well, sometimes even faster than the Metro. Don't see any official news that Vancouver is officially on for next year. What can I do to get it up and running?

    I also think Vancity Credit Union would be a perfect sponsor

  • Anonymous

    Actually, there hasn't been a concrete announcement. It's still in the very early phases. Considering Montreal's system projected to break even this year but actually lost 5.5 million, we may be waiting a while yet. For 5.5 million a year the city could put in a lot of racks, lanes and cops to prevent thefts, and probably have change left over to give away a couple of hundred bikes!

  • Anonymous

    You can't compare Montreal's costs with any other city's, because you have to take into account that Montreal created everything from the ground up. Vancouver won't have to research, design and manufacture entirely new technologies and equipment. They're just buying the bikes/docks and managing the system.

    You're also mistaken about Montreal's expectation to break even this year. They always expected it to take 3-5 years, so they're on track. More importantly, Bixi has changed the face of the city forever. The true cost of the system will only be measurable in the long run, taking into account all of the inumerable positive impacts on urban quality of life.

  • RST

    Potential problem is legally you need to wear a helmet in Vancouver, so this would require you to have one on you if you decide to rent a bike on the way home from work.

    A solution could be simular to Toronto – if you're 16 & older you don't need to wear one, if you're under 16 then it's the law.

    In Montreal you don't have to wear a helmet – I'm sure that contributes to the widespread usage.

  • Colleen MacDonald

    OH YES!!! I've BIXI-ed in Montreal and it is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING…cannot Wait for us to have our own Bike Share Program. Hooray for VANCITY on this one, what a perfect fit. Oh, I cannot cannot wait ! ride with me at: colleenrides.com

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  • anon

    I think the provincial helmet laws will scuttle this one. Melbourne has a bixi based system, and is the only other city to implement in the presence of a helmet law. Its system is only getting a (very small) fraction of its intended utilization. I think Vancouver has bigger problems to deal with for this kind of money, particularly if it turns out to be a money pit. That kind of disaster would be a big blow to the bike lobby in the area too.

  • http://twitter.com/erinmacgregor Erin MacGregor

    The Bixi system it intended for very short trips and is not particularly cost effective. The Montreal system is designed with stations about every 300 m and intended for travel not much further than that. The cost increase beyond 30 minutes is a major deterrent and I’ve never really understood who the target market is for Bixi. The cost/time restrictions make it undesirable for tourists and not practical for running errands. I also can’t really see it being a reliable method for daily work commutes, such as getting from a transit station to work, because there is no guarantee of a bike being available where you want it, or that there will be a free spot to drop it off at your end location.

    A simple solution, that I’m almost shocked hasn’t occurred to any local entrepreneurial types, is to open more bike rental shops along the routes. Amsterdam, for example, does not have a Bixi type system that I know of but bikes are readily available from rental shops, most hotels, and some other businesses, with a basic cost structure that was relatively low (e.g. $8 for a 2 hour rental). The biggest advantage of this is that there is no additional high infrastructure cost such as that associated with the Bixi System, and it’s also a great business opportunity. All it requires is having some sturdy locks on the bikes. Another major bonus: it keeps the City away from spending more of your taxpayer money.

    I agree with some of the other comments that the Bixi system could be a big gamble in a city like Vancouver. Not only is the helmet law a limitation, but areas like Kits are very large, making a system designed around spacing stations every 3 blocks even less feasible.

    Vancouver really needs to gain more common sense and move away from this constant need for over-engineering and expensive infrastructure projects (often with bad design).

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  • Climbr87

    Too expensive. Nothing more to add.

  • Jay

    Absolutely awesome!!! Just got back from Montreal and used these every day of our trip!!! VERY excited to get these to Vancouver!

  • Urbnplanner604

    Is this such a good idea…apparently, the model is struggling in Montreal as “the program is running a $5 million to $6 million operating deficit and owes $37 million to the city”

    http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1015301–more-bikes-needed-to-help-bixi-survive-says-union

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  • Frederic

    BIXIs are a costly failure in Montreal its city of birth: 

              “Last month it was announced that Bixi would get a “$108-million bailout” from the city of Montreal. The bailout takes the form of a complex combination of loans and lines of credit, but public reaction from people who did not read these details was predictably outraged: Why should people who never use the bike rental service pay for it? ”

    http://www.quebecoislibre.org/11/110615-7.html

  • Ian Harder

    Regarding the time restrictions and target market:

    The Velib system in Paris has the same time restrictions. We were vacationing there about a month ago and used it everywhere. Sometimes we went overtime because we didn’t care much, but we could easily have stayed within the limit. It’s also a big hit there among commuters who use it even more than tourists. They are designed to get you from A to B, not to meander around the city. We could get almost anywhere in half an hour. We would often just find another station and return our bikes, then immediately get other bikes out.

  • dave

    Problem is most bike shops would need to charge rip-off rates to make it worth their while.   

    Van desperately needs a bike rental system.  The public transport system is really not good enough.

    30min bike rides are more than enough for the average bike ride across town.  You can always get to a station and switch bikes if you want to go further.

    Need to get rid of the helmet laws and make more and safer bike lanes. 

    A couple of important positives:

    You can park your bike in Gastown without worrying crackheads will steal it. 

    You can drop off the bike in one place and not have to go back to the same place to get on a bike.

    Only problem with the system is it rains 9 months of the year so only a few diehards would use it outside of the summer.

  • Crgslister

    Oh yea..Bixi Montreal is gonna break even this year. CTV reports about it:

    MONTREAL — A $108-million loan package for the Bixi rent-a-bike program was passed by a 35 to 25 vote of city council Tuesday afternoon.

    Break even my ass.